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[307.26 --> 311.84] This is how my heavenly father will treat each of us
[311.84 --> 316.24] unless you forgive a brother or sister from your heart.
[318.94 --> 320.20] It's a heavy teaching, hey?
[322.76 --> 325.90] Right now I'm reading through a book by Ronald Ruhlheiser
[325.90 --> 328.42] on spiritual growth, spiritual formation.
[329.08 --> 330.80] He writes quite extensively on the topic.
[330.94 --> 333.00] And in this book, he makes this comment
[333.00 --> 335.06] about spirituality and stages of life
[335.06 --> 336.58] that just kind of caught me off guard.
[336.58 --> 338.34] He says, and this is a generalization,
[339.16 --> 340.64] that in the first half of life,
[340.94 --> 343.64] most of us struggle with the seventh command,
[343.76 --> 345.10] which is do not commit adultery.
[345.92 --> 347.60] In the second half of life,
[348.06 --> 350.02] most of us struggle with the sixth command,
[350.12 --> 351.96] which is you shall not murder.
[353.48 --> 355.20] And that's a huge generalization.
[355.36 --> 356.86] But what he's getting at behind this
[356.86 --> 358.08] is that when we are young,
[358.16 --> 359.94] we have very strong, youthful passions,
[359.94 --> 361.92] which are a gift and also need to be curbed.
[362.32 --> 363.42] And yet as we get older,
[363.42 --> 365.34] those passions subside usually.
[365.98 --> 367.68] And then a whole new set of concerns
[367.68 --> 369.08] comes into our lives.
[369.76 --> 371.24] The burdens of life,
[371.34 --> 374.28] the heaviness and the unfairness of life,
[374.76 --> 377.90] the wounds of people who betray us
[377.90 --> 380.86] and attack us and are unkind to us.
[381.80 --> 382.90] And generally, he says,
[382.96 --> 384.62] there's two trajectories as you get older.
[384.74 --> 386.38] It says you go in the way of bitterness
[386.38 --> 390.16] and resentment and hurt and grudge,
[390.16 --> 392.04] or you learn the path of forgiveness
[392.04 --> 393.48] and you finish life well.
[395.24 --> 397.06] I have a feeling that even as we preach
[397.06 --> 397.84] through this series,
[398.58 --> 401.24] some of the heaviness of your own life,
[401.64 --> 402.76] the broken relationships,
[403.06 --> 404.36] that argument you regret,
[404.74 --> 406.72] those words you wish you could unsay,
[407.28 --> 408.48] they come to the surface,
[409.20 --> 409.94] and they should.
[411.06 --> 413.18] Forgiveness is hard.
[413.98 --> 415.70] We want to underscore in this series
[415.70 --> 417.26] that forgiveness is not some simple thing.
[417.34 --> 418.18] It's a hard thing.
[418.28 --> 419.20] And the deeper the wound,
[419.50 --> 421.34] the deeper the process of forgiveness.
[422.26 --> 424.26] But let me just name that it is easier
[424.26 --> 426.92] to hold grudges than it is to forgive.
[427.82 --> 430.12] It's easier to passively, aggressively
[430.12 --> 433.16] dig at your loved one or friend or co-worker
[433.16 --> 434.08] than it is to forgive.
[434.40 --> 437.10] It is easier to sabotage them on social media
[437.10 --> 438.54] than it is to forgive.
[439.08 --> 441.04] It's easier to retaliate
[441.04 --> 443.86] and seek vengeance than it is to forgive.
[444.40 --> 445.74] And it shouldn't surprise any of us,
[445.80 --> 446.24] by the way,
[446.30 --> 448.48] that there's so much teaching
[448.48 --> 450.26] in the Scripture on forgiveness.
[451.10 --> 452.16] In fact, when we were preaching
[452.16 --> 452.90] through Galatians,
[453.02 --> 454.30] I still remember when Pastor Sid
[454.30 --> 455.66] was preaching on Galatians 5,
[455.98 --> 456.76] where Paul says,
[456.98 --> 458.46] put away all these old parts
[458.46 --> 460.12] of your old life before you knew Jesus
[460.12 --> 461.86] and put on the fruits of the Spirit.
[462.36 --> 463.96] And listen to the list he adds
[463.96 --> 465.82] when he says what we need to put away.
[465.82 --> 469.94] Okay, bitterness, anger, fits of rage,
[470.64 --> 474.60] malice, envy, hate, discord.
[474.84 --> 475.80] You getting a theme here?
[476.38 --> 478.10] All these things divide.
[478.98 --> 480.72] All these things represent broken,
[481.00 --> 482.08] fractured relationships.
[482.30 --> 482.68] And then he says,
[482.76 --> 483.76] put on the fruit of the Spirit
[483.76 --> 485.56] because that's going to lead to healing.
[487.36 --> 490.32] Jesus teaches a lot on forgiveness
[490.32 --> 492.34] because it was just as much of a problem then
[492.34 --> 493.52] as it is today.
[493.52 --> 494.50] And today we're going to look at
[494.50 --> 495.62] what Jesus says to Peter
[495.62 --> 497.34] in Matthew chapter 18.
[497.48 --> 498.22] So let's take a look.
[499.50 --> 502.52] Peter asks a really good question to Jesus.
[502.72 --> 504.78] And I bet you maybe in your own life
[504.78 --> 505.80] you've asked this question.
[506.36 --> 506.82] It's like,
[507.32 --> 509.18] how much do I have to forgive?
[510.44 --> 512.56] How much am I required to give
[512.56 --> 513.50] my brother or sister?
[513.64 --> 514.70] And then Peter adds at the end,
[515.02 --> 517.26] up to seven times?
[518.00 --> 518.84] And you should know
[518.84 --> 520.36] there's good teaching background
[520.36 --> 521.34] for why he says this.

[307.26 --> 311.84] This is how my heavenly father will treat each of us

[311.84 --> 316.24] unless you forgive a brother or sister from your heart.

[318.94 --> 320.20] It's a heavy teaching, hey?

[322.76 --> 325.90] Right now I'm reading through a book by Ronald Ruhlheiser

[325.90 --> 328.42] on spiritual growth, spiritual formation.

[329.08 --> 330.80] He writes quite extensively on the topic.

[330.94 --> 333.00] And in this book, he makes this comment

[333.00 --> 335.06] about spirituality and stages of life

[335.06 --> 336.58] that just kind of caught me off guard.

[336.58 --> 338.34] He says, and this is a generalization,

[339.16 --> 340.64] that in the first half of life,

[340.94 --> 343.64] most of us struggle with the seventh command,

[343.76 --> 345.10] which is do not commit adultery.

[345.92 --> 347.60] In the second half of life,

[348.06 --> 350.02] most of us struggle with the sixth command,

[350.12 --> 351.96] which is you shall not murder.

[353.48 --> 355.20] And that's a huge generalization.

[355.36 --> 356.86] But what he's getting at behind this

[356.86 --> 358.08] is that when we are young,

[358.16 --> 359.94] we have very strong, youthful passions,

[359.94 --> 361.92] which are a gift and also need to be curbed.

[362.32 --> 363.42] And yet as we get older,

[363.42 --> 365.34] those passions subside usually.

[365.98 --> 367.68] And then a whole new set of concerns

[367.68 --> 369.08] comes into our lives.

[369.76 --> 371.24] The burdens of life,

[371.34 --> 374.28] the heaviness and the unfairness of life,

[374.76 --> 377.90] the wounds of people who betray us

[377.90 --> 380.86] and attack us and are unkind to us.

[381.80 --> 382.90] And generally, he says,

[382.96 --> 384.62] there's two trajectories as you get older.

[384.74 --> 386.38] It says you go in the way of bitterness

[386.38 --> 390.16] and resentment and hurt and grudge,

[390.16 --> 392.04] or you learn the path of forgiveness

[392.04 --> 393.48] and you finish life well.

[395.24 --> 397.06] I have a feeling that even as we preach

[397.06 --> 397.84] through this series,

[398.58 --> 401.24] some of the heaviness of your own life,

[401.64 --> 402.76] the broken relationships,

[403.06 --> 404.36] that argument you regret,

[404.74 --> 406.72] those words you wish you could unsay,

[407.28 --> 408.48] they come to the surface,

[409.20 --> 409.94] and they should.

[411.06 --> 413.18] Forgiveness is hard.

[413.98 --> 415.70] We want to underscore in this series

[415.70 --> 417.26] that forgiveness is not some simple thing.

[417.34 --> 418.18] It's a hard thing.

[418.28 --> 419.20] And the deeper the wound,

[419.50 --> 421.34] the deeper the process of forgiveness.

[422.26 --> 424.26] But let me just name that it is easier

[424.26 --> 426.92] to hold grudges than it is to forgive.

[427.82 --> 430.12] It's easier to passively, aggressively

[430.12 --> 433.16] dig at your loved one or friend or co-worker

[433.16 --> 434.08] than it is to forgive.

[434.40 --> 437.10] It is easier to sabotage them on social media

[437.10 --> 438.54] than it is to forgive.

[439.08 --> 441.04] It's easier to retaliate

[441.04 --> 443.86] and seek vengeance than it is to forgive.

[444.40 --> 445.74] And it shouldn't surprise any of us,

[445.80 --> 446.24] by the way,

[446.30 --> 448.48] that there's so much teaching

[448.48 --> 450.26] in the Scripture on forgiveness.

[451.10 --> 452.16] In fact, when we were preaching

[452.16 --> 452.90] through Galatians,

[453.02 --> 454.30] I still remember when Pastor Sid

[454.30 --> 455.66] was preaching on Galatians 5,

[455.98 --> 456.76] where Paul says,

[456.98 --> 458.46] put away all these old parts

[458.46 --> 460.12] of your old life before you knew Jesus

[460.12 --> 461.86] and put on the fruits of the Spirit.

[462.36 --> 463.96] And listen to the list he adds

[463.96 --> 465.82] when he says what we need to put away.

[465.82 --> 469.94] Okay, bitterness, anger, fits of rage,

[470.64 --> 474.60] malice, envy, hate, discord.

[474.84 --> 475.80] You getting a theme here?

[476.38 --> 478.10] All these things divide.

[478.98 --> 480.72] All these things represent broken,

[481.00 --> 482.08] fractured relationships.

[482.30 --> 482.68] And then he says,

[482.76 --> 483.76] put on the fruit of the Spirit

[483.76 --> 485.56] because that's going to lead to healing.

[487.36 --> 490.32] Jesus teaches a lot on forgiveness

[490.32 --> 492.34] because it was just as much of a problem then

[492.34 --> 493.52] as it is today.

[493.52 --> 494.50] And today we're going to look at

[494.50 --> 495.62] what Jesus says to Peter

[495.62 --> 497.34] in Matthew chapter 18.

[497.48 --> 498.22] So let's take a look.

[499.50 --> 502.52] Peter asks a really good question to Jesus.

[502.72 --> 504.78] And I bet you maybe in your own life

[504.78 --> 505.80] you've asked this question.

[506.36 --> 506.82] It's like,

[507.32 --> 509.18] how much do I have to forgive?

[510.44 --> 512.56] How much am I required to give

[512.56 --> 513.50] my brother or sister?

[513.64 --> 514.70] And then Peter adds at the end,

[515.02 --> 517.26] up to seven times?

[518.00 --> 518.84] And you should know

[518.84 --> 520.36] there's good teaching background

[520.36 --> 521.34] for why he says this.