newmindai/Llama-3.1-8B-Instruct-w16a8-4nodes-bs64

Abstract

This model was trained as part of our study for comparing FSDP2 with bfloat16 precision against FSDP2 with FP8 mixed precision bfp16-fp8. We used meta-llama/Llama-3.1-8B-Instruct. The model has been loaded using torch_dtype = bfloat16 and for FP8 + FSDP2 compatibility the model has been wrap per-layer instead of whole model This helped to avoid dimension misalignment issues and during forward and backward passes float8 variats been used using the default Tensorwise quantization scaling recipeand we setted thepad_inner_dim` for automatically pad dimensions to be divisible by 16 which is required for FP8.

from torchao.float8 import (
    convert_to_float8_training,
    Float8LinearConfig,
    precompute_float8_dynamic_scale_for_fsdp)
config = Float8LinearConfig(
  pad_inner_dim=True,
  enable_fsdp_float8_all_gather=True)
model = convert_to_float8_training(model, config=config)
if use_fp8:
    for i, layer in enumerate(model.model.layers):
        fully_shard(layer, **fsdp_kwargs)
    fully_shard(model.model.embed_tokens, **fsdp_kwargs)
    fully_shard(model.lm_head, **fsdp_kwargs)

Base Model Technical Specifications

• Parameters: 8 Billion
• Architecture Family: Llama 3.1
• Maximum Position Embeddings: 131,072
• Attention Heads: 32 (num_attention_heads)
• Key-Value Heads: 8 (num_key_value_heads)
• Hidden Layers: 32 (num_hidden_layers)
• Hidden Size: 4,096 (hidden_size)
• Intermediate Size: 14,336
• Vocabulary Size: 128,256
• Precision: bfloat16
• RoPE Scaling: type llama3, factor = 8.0
• RMS Norm Epsilon: 1e-05
• Activation: SiLU

Training Methodology

Training Configuration

• Model: meta-llama/Llama-3.1-8B-Instruct
• Sequence Length: 4,096 (seq_len)
• Epochs: 2
• Per-Device Micro Batch Size: 8
• Gradient Accumulation: 8
• GPUs: 4 (via CUDA_VISIBLE_DEVICES=0,1,2,3)
• dtype: bf16 && fp8=true
  • Weights: bfloat16
  • Activations: float8
• Optimizer: AdamW
  • Learning Rate: 2e-5
  • Weight Decay: 0.01
  • Betas: (0.9, 0.95)
  • Epsilon: 1e-8
• LR Scheduler: Cosine; warmup = 10% (warmup_ratio=0.1) | also warmup_steps=100
• Max Grad Norm: 1.0
• Gradient Checkpointing: Enabled
• Checkpointing: every 10 steps; keep last 5; select best by eval_loss
• Logging: every step to file; Weights & Biases in offline mode
• Seed: 100
• Distributed Training: torch.distributed.run (4 nodes, multi-GPU)
  • FSDP2 (Optimized Fully Sharded Data Parallel)

Setups

• Precision: Used Half-precision bfloat16 as data type and for computation.
• Hardware: HPC (EuroHPC/BSC-class) 4 nodes with 4 × NVIDIA H100 GPUs.
• Framework: PyTorch with torchrun for distributed training.

Dependencies

package	Version
Transformers	4.57.1
torch	2.9.0+cu128
accelerate	0.14.1
datasets	4.3.0
huggingface-hub	0.36.0
tensorboard	2.20.0
tensorboard-data-server	0.7.2
wandb	0.22.1

Job Details

model	Job ID	Runtime (mins)	Nodes	GPUs	Node-hour	GPU-hour	micro-batch	batch-size	gradient_accumulation	total_batch_size
Llama-3.1-8B-Instruct_w16a8_rw	31768103	115.75	1	4	1.929	7.716	2	2	4	32
Llama-3.1-8B-Instruct_w16a8_rw_with_gw_hp	31837629	109.00	1	4	1.816	7.266	2	2	4	32
Llama-3.1-8B-Instruct-w16a8-mxtw	31768031	64.00	4	4	1.066	4.266	2	2	4	32
Llama-3.1-8B-Instruct-w16a16-tw	31768074	138.75	1	4	0.858	3.433	2	2	4	32
Llama-3.1-8B-Instruct-w16a8-1node-bs8	31768093	123.75	1	4	0.788	3.151	2	2	4	32
Llama-3.1-8B-Instruct-w16a16-4nodes-bs32	31478433	31.75	4	4	2.117	8.467	4	4	8	512
Llama-3.1-8B-Instruct-w16a8-4nodes-bs32	31478468	39.75	4	4	2.650	10.600	4	4	8	512
Llama-3.1-8B-Instruct-w16a16-8nodes-bs32	31476914	22.00	8	4	2.933	11.733	4	4	8	1024
Llama-3.1-8B-Instruct-w16a8-8nodes-bs32	31476844	23.50	8	4	3.133	12.533	4	4	8	1024
Llama-3.1-8B-Instruct-w16a16-8nodes-bs64	31476914	22.00	8	4	2.933	11.733	4	8	8	1024
Llama-3.1-8B-Instruct-w16a8-8nodes-bs64	31476844	23.50	8	4	3.133	12.533	4	8	8	1024

All 6-models trained on(1Node,4Noes,8Nodes with both bfp16-fp8 && bfp16 configurations)

perplexity metric results for bfp16 && bfp16-fp8 configurations	Accuracy metric results for bfp16 && bfp16-fp8 configurations	Loss metric results for bfp16 && bfp16-fp8 configurations	Memory allocation for bfp16 && bfp16-fp8 configurations	Utilization for bfp16 && bfp16-fp8 configurations

Model	Max Loss (train)	Min Loss (train)	Avg Loss (train)	Final Loss (train)	± Std (train)	Max Loss (val)	Min Loss (val)	Avg Loss (val)	Final Loss (val)	± Std (val)
Llama-3.1-8B-Instruct-w16a8-rw	8	3.1682	0.5740	0.8118	0.6431	0.2746	1.0613	0.8394	0.8937	0.8394
Llama-3.1-8B-Instruct_w16a8_rw_with_gw_hp	8	3.1837	0.5763	0.8116	0.6420	0.2751	1.0599	0.8391	0.8933	0.8391
Llama-3.1-8B-Instruct-w16a8-mxtw	8	3.1983	0.5747	0.8115	0.6446	0.2758	1.0562	0.8384	0.8923	0.8384
Llama-3.1-8B-Instruct-w16a16-tw	8	3.1235	0.7203	0.9750	0.3344	0.7612	1.9113	0.8907	0.9831	0.1897
Llama-3.1-8B-Instruct-w16a8-1node-bs8	8	3.1661	0.7261	0.9804	0.3374	0.7672	1.9230	0.8948	0.9867	0.1906
Llama-3.1-8B-Instruct-w16a16-4nodes-bs32	32	3.2452	0.7414	0.9665	0.4844	0.7504	1.0538	0.8382	0.8844	0.0725
Llama-3.1-8B-Instruct-w16a8-4nodes-bs32	32	3.2840	0.7478	0.9748	0.4905	0.7581	1.0701	0.8430	0.8922	0.0764
Llama-3.1-8B-Instruct-w16a16-8nodes-bs32	32	3.2311	0.8448	1.1856	0.6434	0.8448	1.0257	0.8977	0.9460	0.0568
Llama-3.1-8B-Instruct-w16a8-8nodes-bs32	32	3.3003	0.8473	1.1866	0.6481	0.8473	1.0203	0.8992	0.9445	0.0539
Llama-3.1-8B-Instruct-w16a16-8nodes-bs64	64	3.2311	0.8448	1.1856	0.6434	0.8448	1.0257	0.8977	0.9460	0.0568
Llama-3.1-8B-Instruct-w16a8-8nodes-bs64	64	3.3003	0.8473	1.1866	0.6481	0.8473	1.0203	0.8992	0.9445	0.0539

Implementation

Usage

Note: the final model has saved in bfloat16 format. For inference, load the model in bfloat16 or float16 as shown below:

from transformers import AutoModelForCausalLM, AutoTokenizer
import torch
model_name = "Llama-3.1-8B-Instruct-w16a8-4nodes-bs64"
dtype = torch.bfloat16
tok = AutoTokenizer.from_pretrained(model_name)
model = AutoModelForCausalLM.from_pretrained(
    model_name,
    torch_dtype=dtype,
    device_map="auto"
)
prompt = "Soru: Kişisel Verilerin Korunması Kanunu uyarınca hangi durumlarda açık rıza aranmaz? Cevap:"
inputs = tok(prompt, return_tensors="pt").to(model.device)
with torch.no_grad():
    out = model.generate(
        **inputs,
        max_new_tokens=256,
        do_sample=False
    )
print(tok.decode(out[0], skip_special_tokens=True))

Ethical Considerations and Disclaimers

• Research & development purposes only; not a substitute for professional legal counsel.
• Users must ensure compliance with data protection and sector regulations.
• Potential biases may exist in domain data and model outputs.

Model & Data Card Metadata

• Total Parameters: 8,030,261,248
• Serialized Size (approx.): 16,060,522,496 bytes
• Config precision: bfloat16
• RoPE: llama3 scaling, factor 8.0

References and Citations

Base Model

@misc{meta_llama31_8b_instruct,
  title={Llama 3.1 8B Instruct},
  author={Meta AI},
  year={2024},
  howpublished={\url{https://huggingface.co/meta-llama/Llama-3.1-8B-Instruct}}
}

Training Dataset

@misc{euro_hpc_legal,
  title={EuroHPC-Legal},
  author={newmindai},
  year={2025},
  howpublished={\url{https://huggingface.co/datasets/newmindai/EuroHPC-Legal}}
}